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I read something like: "The end of the 18th century was... [a] difficult period for the Ottomans, where the Empire was facing multi-thronged issues, including a humiliating defeat against Russia in 1774 and Napoleon’s invasion of Egypt in 1798, as well as serious challenges to the Sultan’s authority coming from local notables all corners of the Empire. There was (yet again) a sense of shock and existential crisis among the political and intellectual elites..."

And I think: Yes, there is often a sense of shock and existential crisis among the political-intellectual élite. But in the 1400s, 1500s, and 1600s the Ottoman Empire quickly squelched uppity local notables, and it were the powers on its borders that had to fear humiliating military defeats as the Ottoman Empire excelled all of its neighbors in its ability to organize resources, mobilize and supply a large well-trained and -disciplined army and navy, and acquire and utilize new military technologies. What is this contrast between the internal and external situation of the Ottoman Empire in the 1500s on the one hand and the 1770-1810 period on the other but what one could correctly call a "relative decline"? Yes, intellectuals paint false and fictional idealized pictures of a glorious ideal past—it is one of the things that they do. But the intellectuals were not wrong in seeing that there were very important and significant things that the Russian Empire of Tsaritsa Ekaterina Velikaya and the First French Republic could do that the Ottoman Empire could not match.

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Brad DeLong

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Richard Careaga's avatar

Reminds me of “the fall of the Roman Empire” myth that overlooked its continuation through the Byzantine Empire for nearly a millennium. I suspect that elements of the Romano-Byzantine tradition survived the Ottoman conquest, too.

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