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Zoheyra Bent Bashir Borouis's avatar

Read very quickly. Would need sometime to dive in, read the book, reflect on the content and what it means for us, former ottomans, contrast in the light of our contemporary societies.... One thing strikes me from the get go, observed from our mothers, grand mothers, great grand mothers...It is not the power games, the internal politics, the intimate physical and emotional contact (to use a more whole comcept in this humble writer's view) which there definitely was a lot of that.

It is, I was saying, culture. Yes, culture. The women in a Harem, and the model they carried out (one man, several wives and children growing with several parental figures), were highly cultured, refined ( in more than one aspect good or bad, granted). Not defending or praising anything here. Just sharing. That state of things trickled down to family, clan, tribe relationships in that type society. Women, from the most powerful to tge humblest, were cultured in all kinds of arts, speech, culinary, abode, bath and body care. music and imstrument playing, poetry, storytelling and history ( popular and otherwise), textiles and clothings, home keeping ( yes there is culture in that too...), quranic precepts and related...and of course, but it is just one of many aspects. how to hold with an absolute grip a House without seeming overpowering, just passing by...

In other words, to extend this Harem core question to the rest of the Ottoman society and what is contemporarily called ( reductively in this writer's view) empire, culture was at the core of the feminine centred household, power supported it, not the other way round.

Just my two cents, regretting already this comment for how long it became. Sorry for that. And...thank you again for opening up this fascinating subject. Salam

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This morning I read a piece in LinkedIn on how "Wives in family businesses hold powerful, often unseen influence over succession outcomes. Their attitudes and roles—whether active or behind the scenes—can shape leadership transitions in unexpected ways. Including them in planning is critical for success. this is from the work of Barbara Cosson (she/her) and Michael Gilding

Clearly even as many things have changed some things haven't! And that's a good thing IMO!

https://familybusiness.org/content/over-my-dead-body-the-unseen-influence-of-wives-on-succession

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